A Petition for Change

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Dec. 7, 2016, 9:46 a.m.

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Dec. 7, 2016, 9:46 a.m.

There is a Dilbert out there describing Progression 2.0 quite to the point:

Suddenly the sun should shine through the clouds, an eagle should come out of the sky and take maintenance away beyond the horizon never to be seen again...

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Dec. 7, 2016, 10:47 a.m.

MorallyGray#0031 posted (#post-74697)

....While i think the Tier system was a direct, and inarguable step backwards, i understand how much work went into it, and why the Devs may be reluctant to scrap it. I think it is in all of our best interests to focus on fixing an obviously broken, and specifically not fun system. Personally, i would like to see maintenance vanish entirely. However upon further consideration for it to be reworked as an anti-leaver system, exclusively, i would be comfortable with it.....

....We can fix this, and i say "we" being the community. As we are the ones that play the developing product, we are in a unique position to discover how the game is progressing. We have seen in the past that the Devs listen to criticism, all be it in a lurking fashion with very little feedback. We should support this, as i personally would love to play this game, and i would love to interact with the Devs in-game. But currently, i just cant justify it. The downsides, outweigh the upsides, greatly....

Nailed it. I could not agree more strongly with this sentiment.

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Dec. 7, 2016, 3:14 p.m.

I could agree too, really.

But even if Dev hear the community, the last Dev Talk, tend to proof that they are not in the state of mind to re-think the game, the way the community suggest.
I still do have an hope this to happen, because as much as you want a system to stay in place, if you have no customer to support it, you must make a change.

But for now, our only com about what they think is the Dev Talk. And the Dev Talk say:
-Maintenance is here and they like it. They just need to polish it (to there PoV)
-It's ok if someone that reach T5 must go back to a lower tier because of maintenance. It's (seems) intended
-You will not play the ship you want, you must build a Fleet. So, grind is to be done.

I see somewhere that they may have a plane for officer briefing. I must point that, because I don't want people to think that I only troll the Dev. But for now, we are not in the way the community want, even if there is plenty of post to suggest some interesting change. (Once again: this stat is based upon the last Dev talk.)

W8&c, hope they will have a change of mind...

Best proposal to put 2.0 in the right way. Please hear this guy dev

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Dec. 8, 2016, 4:58 a.m.

FunkyColdMedina#4261 posted (#post-75741)


Thank you for your support! Now please stay away from me with your pesky Arty.

Discord Moderator "Once you reach level 49 your title should be Anax Below the Belt, obviously" ---Lord Griffin CH- Sometimes at the beggining of a match I forget I still don't have my RAM's back TheBorg- Yeah I can imagine you giving orders to your crew "Engage RAMMING SPEED!" "We don't have any RAM's sir!" "I don't care, do it anyway!"

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Dec. 8, 2016, 9:09 a.m.

The last dev announcement was the last drop for me. I quit. I have uninstalled and not once regretted it. If the current state will change to something that's fun playing again, I might consider coming back, however, that would need a serious make-over of the current system so...


Dreadnought Support Tool | Customer Support | Dreadnought Discord | Ship Datamine - by Snib

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Dec. 8, 2016, 9:33 a.m.

I agree in particular with OP's #2 and #3 points. Losing access to the ships we wanted to play was ridiculous. I'm fine with a progression tree for weapons and modules within a ship - but where the heck is the logic in "oh, if you research a Drain Torpedo and Protean Autoguns, now you suddenly know how to buy a Palos!"??? (which uses neither of those, and is also almost a crippled useless ship, but that's a different rant)

I've uninstalled this game twice now, and the only reason I'm still playing this game at all is because I sank the money into a founder's pack and I keep checking to see if they've listened to user feedback and improved it any.

The grind just to get the ships we want to play is excessive. Have a grind within a ship to get the "cool" weapons, sure. But arbitrarily limiting the ship selection (as bait/incentive to do it?) is harsh. The Recruit games are so weird and boring since there's only a few ship types available (or allowed!) in it. Then the step to Veteran is too steep and you spend all your time getting destroyed because you can't afford anything once you've gotten there. I've been playing mostly Recruit games just to earn the money to buy things at the Veteran level because I just get creamed in the Veteran level with my skeletal tier III ship. Kinda messed up.

So, yeah, signing this petition - we need a revamp. I like a build tree, but the weapons and modules should be in a tree, ships shouldn't be. Let us buy what we want and upgrade it as we can afford to. Don't make us buy ships or modules we don't want to pay for or play. Good players will already make a small diverse fleet to adjust to game conditions, but let them pick the ships they prefer for that.

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Dec. 8, 2016, 5:34 p.m.

I agree with all of these points. The game is taking a very greedy path. We all hoped that it didn't come to this. I was on GamesCom in 2015 and played Dreadnaught there the first time. It was so fun that my friends and me queued a couple of times, just to play it. From that day, I looked forward to play it more. Now I own it and the game disgusts me. I left it for the same reasons I left WoT (yes, that comparison again, sorry). I will not return until some major changes have been done to the maintenance system. I support the idea of killing it entirely and just put it in place for leaving during a match as punishment.
Please... do not be this greedy, Devs... we know, you have to eat and pay your hardware and other bills and so on, but don't be like this! If there isn't any other option, just make the game buy to play for 40 bucks. I'm sure a lot of people would get it. You can release expansions later.
Just please, I'm literally begging you, save this game, stop the greed. I want to play this game that I fell in love with 1 1/2 years ago.

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Dec. 8, 2016, 11:08 p.m.

Gishi#4957 posted (#post-75762)

i agree with this change because all my friends and i stopped playing after the update due to the freedoms we lost with ships.

signed Gishi

Thanks bro! Hope to see you in game soon.

Discord Moderator "Once you reach level 49 your title should be Anax Below the Belt, obviously" ---Lord Griffin CH- Sometimes at the beggining of a match I forget I still don't have my RAM's back TheBorg- Yeah I can imagine you giving orders to your crew "Engage RAMMING SPEED!" "We don't have any RAM's sir!" "I don't care, do it anyway!"

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Dec. 9, 2016, 2:16 a.m.

Signed [OP]

Also havent played in 3 weeks - waiting for positive change.

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Dec. 9, 2016, 6:19 a.m.

I still don't get the absolute silence. Why? Just why? What conceivable benefit does anyone have from not reacting to the community?
We can see the other posts out there. It's not as if everyone at sixfoot, gb or yager suddenly has lost access to the forums. Heck, even the chinese spam is being pruned back now and then...


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