ManiaCCC#0403 posted (#post-114659)
Theobald#3611 posted (#post-114590)
All games go downhill.
It's just repulsive to people that don't want to spend a dime on it, and those people are not paying the bills anyway. Simple facts.
You don't understand at all. Free to play games are living on money grabbed from players, but these games have something in common...they are not frustrating to play. I already paid for DN and if you would ask me last year, if I would give more money to them, i would say "just release it, no more wipes and I will".. Now I can tell you, I won't. Because I have no fun playing it.
My last experience with DN was like this:
I logged in, started to look for Veteran. (I have few tier 4 ships). Game started after almost 5 minutes, game crashed, I logged in once again after several minutes,
I paid maintenance, started new game, game loaded after several minutes, game was riddled with tier 2 in our team. It was horrible and we lost, everyone in our team was pretty much crying about MM. I paid maintenance and lost some credits.
I started new game. After several minutes, new game started and It was actually good one. We lost, however it was very close, very good game, I ended third in our team. After match I paid maintenance and I got something like 100 credits. It was really really stupid.
So I started new game, now it was with Recruit fleet. After few minutes, game started, our and opposing team was full of tier 3 - tier 4 ships. We lost and I was like at the bottom of the table, because I couldn't do a s**t against tier 3-4 dreadnought and healer blobs. It was boring AF. At least I earned almost 1300 credits (with Veteran bonus).
I started another Recruit game, game loeaded, once again, teams riddled with high tier ships, opposing team has something like 5 tier 4 ships, we have 2. I alt+f4 from the game and never started it again.
As you can see, this is experience, many new players will be going through. And can tell you for sure, chance that players will be willing to pay some money for this game is close to zero.
I play the same game as you, i understand everything the same way you do.
Yes, it's a frustrating game if you don't put any money in - because the design can summarised as "we need to money to maintain the game, if you like it and want to play past the (really) free tier, pay for it"
Keep playing in recruit and you get a lot of credits without maintenance and lots of free xp too. If you put a tier 1 ship in your fleet you'll never be put out of recruit league.
And I get wrecked as much as anyone in veteran tiers because of wonky starting t3 builds against übertuned t4 grinders. This is not a git gud argumentation.
Actually i'm even not loosing money when getting seal clubbed in veteran league while i'm not a leet minimaxer, but more of a "let's try every ship possible" explorer.
Yet i'm okay with spending some money on it, because i do understand i can't get playtime, or a game, for completely free. You don't think this game is worth a game's price ? Well spend what you think it's worth on it then. It will get you 100k credits or something like that anyway.
Honestly the only two problems with the game is the gating of a lot of builds behind tiers (in my mind every secondaries and modules should be unlocked by tier 3, with accodring power levels) and the flagrant gap between new t3 and custom t4 in veteran (as in "you can mathematically not win" in nearly all situation).