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The game Leviathan on Steam, not nearly as good as this.



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July 16, 2017, 9:23 p.m.



Wow, I sure wish I had found this game before I had spent money on the game 'Leviathan' on Steam. This game is WAY better.

  1. Multiple game modes including a MOBA one (that admittedly needs a bit of work)
  2. Ships that feel genuinely different from each other
  3. Healer ships that don't suck
  4. A dramatically better advancement paradigm, as well as a way to keep newbies from getting roflstomped
  5. Better matching system

Thanks guys! I am off to Steam to tell Leviathan players there is a better option!


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July 16, 2017, 11 p.m.


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July 16, 2017, 11 p.m.

Spread the word and support the devs if you can afford it. Money makes the world go round.


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July 17, 2017, 2:45 a.m.


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July 17, 2017, 4:36 p.m.

Now go play "Fractured Space" and you will probably find the vast qty of players who "used" to prefer Dreadnought b4 the devs shot themselves in the foot and ruined the game.


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July 17, 2017, 1:35 p.m.



Hi,

I'm fairly new, would you mind elaborating on the negative changes you are referencing and have there been positive changes as well?

I recently started playing and it's still fun so far.

Thanks


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July 17, 2017, 5:05 p.m.


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July 17, 2017, 5:54 p.m.

Maddmazz#2719 posted (#post-128385)

Hi,

I'm fairly new, would you mind elaborating on the negative changes you are referencing and have there been positive changes as well?

I recently started playing and it's still fun so far.

Thanks

The game was changed from a competitive tactical pvp combat game meant to monetize via vanity items to a mixed pvp/pve grinder for seal clubbers monetizing mainly via progression boosters. Don't dwell on it if you're enjoying yourself. The original game is gone and won't come back.


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July 17, 2017, 6 p.m.



TheJrade#6432 posted (#post-128316)

Wow, I sure wish I had found this game before I had spent money on the game 'Leviathan' on Steam. This game is WAY better.

  1. Multiple game modes including a MOBA one (that admittedly needs a bit of work)
  2. Ships that feel genuinely different from each other
  3. Healer ships that don't suck
  4. A dramatically better advancement paradigm, as well as a way to keep newbies from getting roflstomped
  5. Better matching system

Thanks guys! I am off to Steam to tell Leviathan players there is a better option!

We appreciate the support TheJrade, and we're glad you're enjoying your time with the game thus far! Dreadnought has come a long way in terms of what it was and what it is now, and we're still not done. There are some big changes coming, and just new content in general! One of the biggest changes on the horizon is the replacement of Maintenance with Battle Bonus! You can read more about it here: https://www.greybox.com/dreadnought/en/news/dev-talk-3-future-maintenance/

We're glad you're enjoying your time thus far, and we hope you enjoy your time with the community!

Aside from our Forums, I'd recommend checking out the Unofficial Dreadnought Discord channel as well! It's usually always active and it's fill with both community members, as well as devs! You can find it here: https://discordapp.com/invite/0YUQEUySzjvmLnIg


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July 18, 2017, 12:39 a.m.



I... can't actually find any game on Steam which is just called "Leviathan". Or any game which could reasonably be called "Leviathan" that bears any resemblance to Dreadnought. Got a linky to share?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/297350/The_Old_City_Leviathan/

The Old City: Leviathan could reasonably be called "Leviathan" for short. It's a first-person exploration game which isn't anything remotely like Dreadnought in the first place. I'm inclined to think it's not what you meant, since you probably wouldn't have found it and bought it if you were looking for an experience like Dreadnought.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/411130/Leviathan_the_Cargo__Ongoing_series/

Leviathan: The Cargo is the newest game I could find on Steam with the title "Leviathan". It looks more like an interactive visual novel or a point-and-click adventure game than anything remotely resembling Dreadnought. Once again, seems unlikely to be a game you'd find and buy if you want

http://store.steampowered.com/app/549900/Leviathan_Starblade/

Leviathan Starblade isn't just "Leviathan" or even "Leviathan: subtitle" but I guess it's close, and newer than The Cargo. It's a vertical scrolling 2D shoot-em-up game. It does at least involve spacehips, but once again, I can't see any real comparison to Dreadnought.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/202270/Leviathan_Warships/

This is the only other game I could find that's actually reasonable to call "Leviathan". It's also the only game I own with that word in the title. It's a really good game, and a lot of fun. It's about custom-building ships and sending them into battle. But, once again, nothing like Dreadnought. it's actual naval battles in water, not flying in the sky or space. It's also a top-down simultaneous turn based strategy game. And the "Jazzy" trailer series they made for the game are pretty epic - but for very different reasons from the old but awesome Dreadnought trailer.

None of those games has any relation at all to Dreadnought, but I couldn't find any game which it would be reasonable to call "Leviathan" which looks, sounds or seems to be competing with Dreadnought in any way.

If you're specifically talking about games with a pricetag and vaguely Dreadnought-ish concept of flying big spaceships around and shooting other big spaceships, there are two single-player games I could point to. Starpoint Gemini Warlords and Rebel Galaxy. You'll notice that neither of these games has "Leviathan" anywhere in the title.

The closest comparisons to Dreadnought in terms of games you can find on Steam are Fractured Space and Galactic Junk League. Both are free-to-play games about flying around in space in capital ships and shooting other people who are also flying around in capital ships.

Fractured Space, for a long time, was being referred to by many people as a "bad ripoff of Dreadnought" after the Dreadnought trailer and some alpha gameplay footage had been shown. Fractured Space went public first though, and the devs have been VERY consistent about listening to the fans. In the meantime, when Dreadnought finally did open up to the public, they botched things horribly right before going into "open beta but we're pretending it's not" and have since actually entered open beta without fixing the core issues. The game was absolutely and almost inarguably at its best in the early stages of the closed beta, with the "progression 2.0" release being essentially the killing blow for the game before they opened it to the public. Since Dreadnought's open beta began, I've been hearing it described as a "bad ripoff of Fractured Space" more often than the reverse used to happen.

The two games have a similar gameplay perspective. Both games involve teams of players in large capital-scale spaceships. Fractured Space takes more of a MOBA-like approach, with each team defending a base as an objective, and with a range of lesser objectives spread throughout each map.

Galactic Junk League is best described as a mashup of Dreadnought and the early days of Robocraft. It has custom-buildable ships with a "core" piece that functions sort of like the "seat" that Robocraft used to have. Ships are destructible on a piece-by-piece basis. The core gameplay is basically the same as Dreadnought - team deathmatch battles with players charging in and slaughtering one another. It lacks any kind of healers, however (also a throwback to the early days of Robocraft).

Overall, both FS and GJL are great games worth playing, and each has its own distinctive features that makes it obviously different from Dreadnought - some good and some bad in each, but since they, like Dreadnought, are free-to-play, it's worth trying them out as well and seeing which of these three games really suits you the best.


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