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How you want fix matchmaking? Except not allowing Recruit fleets and Veteran fleets in one match. What else can be done?

DN has two huge problems. One is lack of players, second are tiers itself. That's why "MM is bad".


Anyone#6415 posted (#post-117141)



healing as it works in DN right is just too easy for what it is doing



I agree, that's why the way the healing works should be nerfed, not the actual healing values. It should be more of a skill shot rather than a "hold LMB to heal"



that would be ideal but I am honestly beyond that point, when I am willing to believe, they have power and will to rework these systems.


Lymceh#8349 posted (#post-117133)



Koschei doesn't need a nerf, the enemy team just needs a brain. Purge, drain, armor break etc.



I could not possibly agree more with this. As it stands, one or two good players with the right loadout can break a Koschei with ease. There's no need to make it effortless.



So does healing. Look, I am all for balanced game in every aspect, but as someone who was playing healer for lulz, healihg as it works in DN right is just too easy for what it is doing. I know, many healer players will argue, that healing need so much skill to play well, however I can guarantee you, that navigate through enemy dreads and destroyers to shut down one healer is MUCH MORE skill demanding than just healing everyone around or heal DN, which is under enemy focus fire to full hp in matter of seconds.

I didn't play for month or two, however in time I was playing, I have to agree Koschei was manytimes something, what made game unfun and pretty much felt unfair. It wasn't always. Sometimes Koschei pilot's struggled to position well and it made game at least interesting, however good Koschei pilot made game super unbalanced, two in one team made game unplayable.


These changes seems to be okay and I am definitely for trying them out. Koschei needed some changes, healing needs some changes. So let's see how this will pan out.


However, I am afraid this will lead even more clumping and deathballing since Koschei won't protect his team across whole battlefield. If this will be the case, I think flat healing power reducing or some diminishing return on healing will be needed.

Again and again. As long as devs will "punish" players for playing and not reward them, it will be fail system.

As Zuroke said, even with maintenance costs you should make a profit..maybe, sometimes a little bit... smile


On serious note. I was playing with Veteran bonus and many times I was still struggling to make a decent profit. And it is getting worse more ships you have. So I wouldn't really bother with DN right now. Don't get me wrong, game can be insanely fun, but game keeps kicking you in the guts for trying to have fun. So..

Sinofmen, there was once nice post on blizzard's forum directly from the dev.


While every opinion is important in a sense, opinion of a newbie, new player or player who played for a while and just quit is much more important than veteran player's opinion. While veterans have good understanding about game mechanics, they have no idea, why people are leaving the game in most cases. They can't objectively tell, what is important for the game and what is just important for very close minority of players like you for example.


So just sit down from your high horse for a moment, acknowledge you opinion is as important as opinion of other players at best, completely worthless at worst.

Theobald, c'mon buddy. I don't know if you ever been part of the game development but I am and I can tell you, that in most cases in bigger games, monetization is not really what game designers are doing. People, who THINKS they know how market works and what gamers are paying for are. These people most of the time don't even play game they are creating monetization for. And no, there are not GOOD reasons for current system. No matter what you think. And yes, many times these people are just wrong. Just look at many games which were killed by monetization itself. These people also were professionals and they had "numbers".


This system was tried and failed too many times. Several years ago, maybe..market was very different, but today, current DN system is basically public suicide for this team and game. In age, where there are new games daily, when F2P games are really F2P and are earning money just fine, people wont stick with this game..


Theobald#3611 posted (#post-114590)


All games go downhill.


It's just repulsive to people that don't want to spend a dime on it, and those people are not paying the bills anyway. Simple facts.



You don't understand at all. Free to play games are living on money grabbed from players, but these games have something in common...they are not frustrating to play. I already paid for DN and if you would ask me last year, if I would give more money to them, i would say "just release it, no more wipes and I will".. Now I can tell you, I won't. Because I have no fun playing it.


My last experience with DN was like this:


I logged in, started to look for Veteran. (I have few tier 4 ships). Game started after almost 5 minutes, game crashed, I logged in once again after several minutes,


I paid maintenance, started new game, game loaded after several minutes, game was riddled with tier 2 in our team. It was horrible and we lost, everyone in our team was pretty much crying about MM. I paid maintenance and lost some credits.


I started new game. After several minutes, new game started and It was actually good one. We lost, however it was very close, very good game, I ended third in our team. After match I paid maintenance and I got something like 100 credits. It was really really stupid.


So I started new game, now it was with Recruit fleet. After few minutes, game started, our and opposing team was full of tier 3 - tier 4 ships. We lost and I was like at the bottom of the table, because I couldn't do a s**t against tier 3-4 dreadnought and healer blobs. It was boring AF. At least I earned almost 1300 credits smile (with Veteran bonus).


I started another Recruit game, game loeaded, once again, teams riddled with high tier ships, opposing team has something like 5 tier 4 ships, we have 2. I alt+f4 from the game and never started it again.


As you can see, this is experience, many new players will be going through. And can tell you for sure, chance that players will be willing to pay some money for this game is close to zero.


Theobald#3611 posted (#post-114590)


All games go downhill.


It's just repulsive to people that don't want to spend a dime on it, and those people are not paying the bills anyway. Simple facts.



You don't understand at all. Free to play games are living on money grabbed from players, but these games have something in common...they are not frustrating to play. I already paid for DN and if you would ask me last year, if I would give more money to them, i would say "just release it, no more wipes and I will".. Now I can tell you, I won't. Because I have no fun playing it.


My last experience with DN was like this:


I logged in, started to look for Veteran. (I have few tier 4 ships). Game started after almost 5 minutes, game crashed, I logged in once again after several minutes,


I paid maintenance, started new game, game loaded after several minutes, game was riddled with tier 2 in our team. It was horrible and we lost, everyone in our team was pretty much crying about MM. I paid maintenance and lost some credits.


I started new game. After several minutes, new game started and It was actually good one. We lost, however it was very close, very good game, I ended third in our team. After match I paid maintenance and I got something like 100 credits. It was really really stupid.


So I started new game, now it was with Recruit fleet. After few minutes, game started, our and opposing team was full of tier 3 - tier 4 ships. We lost and I was like at the bottom of the table, because I couldn't do a s**t against tier 3-4 dreadnought and healer blobs. It was boring AF. At least I earned almost 1300 credits smile (with Veteran bonus).


I started another Recruit game, game loeaded, once again, teams riddled with high tier ships, opposing team has something like 5 tier 4 ships, we have 2. I alt+f4 from the game and never started it again.


As you can see, this is experience, many new players will be going through. And can tell you for sure, chance that players will be willing to pay some money for this game is close to zero.